Posted by AzBlueMeanie:
A New AP-GfK poll released on Thursday shows that: "When it comes to the health care law Obama signed in March, just 39 percent back the GOP effort to repeal it or scale it back. Fifty-eight percent would rather make even more changes in the health care system or leave the measure alone."
Dig a bit deeper and the numbers are even more telling. Only 31 percent of respondents said they want the law repealed completely. Twenty percent wanted it left as is. And 38 percent want it changed so it does more to alter the health care system. (h/t Huffington Post)
This illustrates the point I have made in the past that GOP narrative pollsters and the lazy media tended to ask respondents only if they support or oppose the health care reforms without asking respondents about their specific objections – are they opposed to any changes or do they want even more changes, i.e., a public option or national health care system.
The lazy media prefers to simply repeat the GOP myth that "a majority of Americans are opposed to" the Affordable Care Act. Actually, most respondents want health care reforms to go farther, not to repeal the reforms already enacted. Their discontent is that the reforms did not go far enough.
But you will not hear this from the lazy media.
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Thane..you’re very welcome. Ponder away.
Thank you for your reply. I will ponder it.
Which one is it? You said, ” The high standard of living in the US, in my opinion,is due to the relatively low level of government here compared to that present everywhere else.” And then you go on to completely rag on the govt. intervention in public education, farming, etc.You have your own personal circular conversation going on here!That’s probably why AZMeanie and I have an issue. You contradict yourself.
If my reasoning is faulty then it shouldn’t be difficult to point that out. AZ BlueMeanie stated above that he doesn’t want to rebut my comments although I rather think the reason is because he can’t. Why don’t you point out my mistakes? Is it because you can’t?
Back in my debate days in school, we had a saying that perfectly applies to Thane. “If you can’t dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit.” Thane, in a nutshell.
My late father’s sage advice was “you can’t argue with crazy.” You are an uninformed ideologue who believes nonsense and facts be damned. I waste too much time responding to the uninformed nonsense that you post here as it is. I will not waste my time with your self-indulgent need for attention.
Government is not to be credited for the ready availability of food provisioning in this current age. 99.9% of the responsibility and credit belongs to private farms, private food production companies, private transportation firms and private grocery stores. I am not a critic of civilization and have no desire to live the life of a hermit in a cave. The high standard of living in the US in my opinion is due to the relatively low level of government here compared to that present everywhere else. To the extent the US Constitution has limited government I offer thanks to the founders.
Letter delivery occurred prior to government providing that service. Primary education occurred prior to government offering it. Both can be readily provided without government involvement.
Thank you for asking if I had helped public education. I am all in favor of improving education. The best way to accomplish that is to eliminate government involvement in education.
Ah…that mean ole nasty government again! Too many regulations and it doesn’t do anything well. Wrong answer.I’d like to make a suggestion, if you think that the govt is just messing things up for you, and it’s ineffective and in the way,then figure out how to get your own mail, don’t drive on the roads, use the airlines, drink the water, vote, educate yourself in those ineffective public schools,oh…the list is endless!Poo poo those govt.interventions like the Civil Rights Act,Voting Rights Act…you know, those highly invasive things that helped this country move forward. You are of course free to go live on a plot of land, away from civilized society…you are free to eat tree bark (ala Yule Gibbons)catch a big old meaty “something” and trap rain water in your hands to drink. Is everything that the govt wants to do good? No.As citizens we should be a voice for our govt…they work for us, not the other way around.That said, it’s a damn sight better than thinking it’s all bad, like you seem to think it is.We’ve had a set of rules and regulations that we’ve had in place for quite a few years that’s worked out fine. It’s called the Constitution.And just wondering…how have you helped improve the public education in your town? If you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the problem.
I certainly understand that if you cannot address the points made in my comment that you prefer to infer that I am ill. Many advocates of government control use that tactic rather than defend their ideals.
I comment here because among many posts that do a dandy job of informing the Arizona voting population there are also quite a few that advocate ideas that are downright bad. Bad ideas should be countered at every opportunity.
I will leave it to the readership here to decide if the reason you don’t provide a substantive and reasoned response is because you don’t want to or because you can’t.
Are these delusional rants somehow therapeutic for you? I would much rather you seek professional help. I can’t help you.
Just because 58% of the people who answer the phone (or you stop walking down the street) think that government should “do something” isn’t any sort of good reason to add more government health care regulation.
Imposing a government monopoly on health insurance and government health care would leave the US in the same situation as we have with US K-12 public education system with public school apologists claiming that the reason public (government monopoly) education in the US isn’t great is that we haven’t spent enough on it. A background chorus then chimes in that we should eliminate tax loopholes that allow taxpayers and businesses (and evil corporations) to retain so much of their earned paychecks and revenue. These two songs are all I have heard in the two decades I’ve been of voting age. Does the NY state government K-12 education system have it right? Or does the District of Columbia have a K-12 education system that does a great job? Which state is the shining star in its implementation of its public option of K-12 education?
I assert that the reason all the US states (and DC) have public education systems that some (like me) are disappointed in is because they are all government monopolies that only the employees are happy with. The only solution is to abolish the monopoly so that parents can pay directly for education.
Adopting more government control of health insurance may benefit some small groups over the short run. Imposing government mandates and controls don’t make the costs magically disappear any more than providing “free” government education makes the cost to provide education go away. Imposing a monopoly on health insurance or health care is a sure way to guarantee poor service or ever increasing cost.
The “do something” lobby should be asked when was the last time it built a drug store or a drug research facility or a hospital or spent years studying to become a doctor or nurse? Those who advocate for more government control can never offer better results in health insurance, health care or education than the system of voluntary exchange that results from a government free marketplace.