World’s ‘greatest negotiator’ gets rolled by Democrats, throws GOP leadership under the bus

During the campaign, Donald Trump sold himself as a great deal maker and great negotiator, and enough of the low information rubes voters who don’t know any better bought that con job and made him president.

The self-proclaimed “greatest negotiator” met with GOP and Democratic leadership on Wednesday to negotiate a budget deal, raising the federal debt ceiling to avoid a default at the end of September, nd hurricane relief aid for Texas.

The GOP’s alleged boy genius and Ayn Rand fanboy, Paul Ryan, “the zombie-eyed granny starver from the state of Wisconsin,” made the GOP position clear at a press conference earlier in the morning. Ryan and the septuagenarian Ninja Turtle, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, just assumed that Trump would tow the GOP line since he, you know, is the leader of the GOP.

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer made the Democrats’ opening low-ball offer, and the world’s “greatest negotiator” said “fine, we’ve got a deal,” throwing his own GOP leadership under the bus without even making a counter-offer or attempting to negotiate. I’m sure Chuck and Nancy must have given each other a confused look that said “Wait, did we just win? This is way too easy.”

I love this photo from Roll Call — the look on the faces of the Senate GOP leadership says it all. So this is what a constipated turtle looks like.

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One of the better quick summaries of Wednesday’s stunning developments comes from Joan McCarter at Daily Kos. World’s greatest negotiator gives Democrats everything they want:

The House voted Wednesday to provide $7.85 billion in Harvey relief, 419-3, starting the process for the month’s major work: a debt ceiling increase, a continuing resolution funding government, and disaster relief. It’s looking like all of those things will be combined in one bill in the Senate.

Democratic leaders Rep. Nancy Pelosi and Sen. Chuck Schumer staked out their position on this ahead of a planned meeting between Donald Trump and congressional leaders Wednesday—the Democrats would support a three-month extension of the debt ceiling and a three-month continuing resolution along with disaster aid. House Speaker Paul Ryan blasted that offer as “ridiculous” and “unworkable.”

Trump apparently didn’t agree with Ryan.

President Donald Trump agreed to a request from congressional Democrats to raise the debt ceiling and extend government funding through Dec. 15, according to sources familiar with a meeting he held Wednesday with congressional leaders. The package would also include relief funding for victims of Hurricane Harvey.

This, reportedly, isn’t going over well with Republicans.

Here are some of the headlines today:

To Allies’ Chagrin, Trump Swerves Left: Republican congressional leaders perched on the couches in the Oval Office froze in mid-smile on Wednesday afternoon when they realized President Trump was bypassing them to cut a short-term spending and debt ceiling deal with Democrats, and not them.

For Conservatives, Trump’s Deal With Democrats Is Nightmare Come True:

It is the scenario that President Trump’s most conservative followers considered their worst nightmare, and on Wednesday it seemed to come true: The dealmaking political novice, whose ideology and loyalty were always fungible, cut a deal with Democrats.

If Mr. Trump’s agreement with the two Democratic leaders, Senator Chuck Schumer and Representative Nancy Pelosi, to increase the debt limit and finance the government for three months did not yet represent the breaking point between the president and his core, hard-right base of support, it certainly put him closer than he has ever been to tipping his fragile political coalition into open revolt.

Stunned and irate, conservative leaders denounced news that Mr. Trump had agreed to rely on Democratic votes to win congressional approval for a temporary extension of the debt ceiling and funding of the government until mid-December.

“These are the moments that can derail President Trump’s presidency,” said David Bozell, the president of For America and a Trump supporter, who added that the president’s base would be watching the next few months very carefully. “He is not Teflon,” Mr. Bozell added. “Trump spent some of his own political capital today.”

And this from Breitbart: Meet the Swamp: Donald Trump Punts September Agenda to December After Meeting with Congress.

Good times!

Pelosi and Schumer released a statement saying “Both sides have every intention of avoiding default in December and look forward to working together on the many issues before us.” Then they get to the point of why they made this three month offer in the first place: “As Democratic leaders, we also made clear that we strongly believe the DREAM Act must come to the floor and pass as soon as possible and we will not rest until we get this done.”

For their part, the House maniacs are pouting. Freedom Caucus spokesperson Alyssa Farah tweets a threat: “Don’t make December plans.” Their love affair with Trump appears to be over.

The Washington Post adds, Trump sides with Democrats on fiscal issues, throwing Republican plans into chaos:

The episode is the latest turn in Trump’s separation from his party as he distances himself to deflect blame for what has been a year of gridlock and missed opportunities for Republicans on Capitol Hill. It follows a summer of presidential stewing over McConnell and Ryan, both of whom Trump views as insufficiently loyal and weak in executing his agenda, according to his advisers.

Trump made his position clear at a White House meeting with both parties’ congressional leaders, agreeing with Senate Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) on plans for a bill to fund the government and raise the debt ceiling for three months.

That effectively postpones until December a divisive fight over fiscal matters, including whether to fund construction of Trump’s long-promised wall at the U.S.-Mexico border.

In siding with Democrats, Trump overruled his own treasury secretary, Steven Mnuchin, who was in the middle of an explanation backing a longer-term increase when the president interrupted him and disagreed, according to a person briefed on the meeting who was not authorized to comment publicly and spoke on the condition of anonymity. Trump was “in deal-cutting mode,” the person said.

After the gathering, McConnell said he would add provisions extending government funding and the debt limit through mid-December to legislation passed by the House on Wednesday providing $7.85 billion in Hurricane Harvey relief. McConnell introduced the legislation late Wednesday night, setting up a Senate vote as early as Friday.

“The president agreed with Senator Schumer and Congresswoman Pelosi to do a three-month [funding extension] and a debt ceiling into December, and that’s what I will be offering, based on the president’s decision, to the bill,” McConnell told reporters.

Later in the evening, McConnell introduced legislation to extend current spending levels and the federal borrowing limit until Dec. 8 and increase disaster funding to $15.25 billion. The funding boost includes several provisions to address potential damage from Hurricane Irma, which is expected to make landfall in the continental United States over the weekend.

During the meeting Wednesday, Trump also threw tacit support behind the Democrats’ push for a “dreamers” bill that would effectively formalize an Obama-era program shielding undocumented immigrants brought to the United States as children from deportation.

“Chuck and Nancy want to see something happen — and so do I,” Trump said.

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By setting up another debt-ceiling vote in December — a vote in which Republicans will almost certainly need Democratic help to avoid default — Democrats keep their seat at the table in this fall’s key policy debates.

Had Trump sided with GOP leaders, Democrats would have been stuck trying to extract concessions ahead of debt-ceiling votes this week using an empty threat — voting against a legislative package that includes the politically sensitive Harvey aid. Democrats believe pushing the debt-limit debate into December will increase their leverage on several issues, including the protection of dreamers and securing funds to help stabilize health-care markets.

Schumer and Pelosi also gained an edge by giving Democrats an aura of strategic command they have lacked since Trump’s election. Instead of McConnell claiming victory, it was Schumer who told reporters, “The nation can breathe a sigh of relief.”

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McConnell and Ryan came out of the White House meeting in the weakest position — losing an opportunity to neutralize the debt-ceiling issue before the 2018 midterm elections and to exclude Democrats from major policy debates this fall.

The president’s decision came barely an hour after Ryan panned the idea of a short-term debt hike, accusing Democrats of “playing politics” with much-needed aid for Hurricane Harvey victims.

“I think that’s ridiculous and disgraceful that they want to play politics with the debt ceiling at this moment when we have fellow citizens in need,” Ryan told reporters.

Trump apparently disagreed.

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The short-term extensions for the debt ceiling and government funding are also expected to further cloud the prospects for enacting major tax cuts, Trump’s top domestic priority. They effectively mean spending and budget fights will continue for months, just as the GOP was hoping to coalesce around a plan to cut taxes.

So Congress is planning on ruining yet another Christmas with a possible government shutdown, this time over the budget, the debt ceiling, “Obamacare” stabilization, Trump’s border wall, possibly a tax bill, and maybe a long-shot at a DREAM Act.

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  1. Calling Earth a “Loser,” Trump Vows to Make Better Deal with New Planet
    By Andy Borowitz
    June 1, 2017

    WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)—In a dramatic announcement from the White House Rose Garden on Thursday, Donald J. Trump pronounced the planet Earth a “loser” and vowed to make a better deal with a new planet.

    “Earth is a terrible, very bad planet,” he told the White House press corps. “It’s maybe the worst planet in the solar system, and it’s far from the biggest.”

    Trump blasted former President Barack Obama for signing deals that committed the United States to remain on the planet Earth indefinitely. “Obama is almost as big a loser as Earth,” Trump said. “If Obama was a planet, guess what planet he’d be? That’s right: Earth.”

    When asked which planet he would make a new deal with, Trump offered few specifics, saying only, “The solar system has millions of terrific planets, and they’re all better than Earth, which is a sick, failing loser.”

    https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/calling-earth-a-loser-trump-vows-to-make-better-deal-with-new-planet

  2. I must admit I was surprised and I am not pleased but I wonder if Trump isn’t getting ready to run a variation of rope-a-dope. Time will tell. Trump is not an incompetent politician. Look what he did to Hillary. Surely you haven’t forgotten?

      • Remember that time you elected a pussy grabbing pervert to lead your party? Surely you haven’t forgotten?

      • Remember that time you posted in an online comments section and it made you look like a fool? Surely you haven’t forgotten?

      • I swear, the Arizona GOP operates on a elementary school level both in policy and temperament.

        • “I swear, the Arizona GOP operates on a elementary school level both in policy and temperament.”

          You are delightfully unaware of yourself, Tom. You post a series of 6th grade taunts at someone and then complain they are at an elementary school level. Childish taunts are your stock and trade. I keep thinking you must know that about yourself, and then you do it such a practiced way that I think maybe you aren’t aware of it.

      • Remember when your favorite Nazi-friendly lying birther Sheriff got voted out of office for being a POS?

        • “Remember when your favorite Nazi-friendly lying birther Sheriff got voted out of office for being a POS?”

          Actually, it was people being POSs that voted him out of office.

  3. Yep, because the GOP is incompetent and cannot govern, Trump has finally made a deal, with DEMS! Haha!

    And he Tweeted some reassurance out to Dreamers! … after Nancy Pelosi asked him to! An extra bonus Pelosi haha!

    But tell Paul “Ayn” Ryan that his nightmare will be over soon.

    It’s been verified, even by NPR now, that Mueller, who for some reason doesn’t trust the GOP, is sharing with NYAG Eric Schneiderman, ensuring that our portly POTUS won’t be able to pardon his way out of jack-squat.

    So much obstruction! We’re begging you, no more obstruction, we can’t take any more obstruction!

    Hey, you don’t suppose that’s why Trump worked with Dems today?

    Probably, but whatever, the debt ceiling is stupid, America pays her bills, and shame on the Tea Party folks for threatening default.

    Fake patriots, all of them.

    • “Yep, because the GOP is incompetent and cannot govern, Trump has finally made a deal, with DEMS! Haha!”

      LOL!! It never even occurs to you that Trump got what he wanted, does it? Your zeal to find fault with Trump blinds you to the obvious, doesn’t it?

      “And he Tweeted some reassurance out to Dreamers! … after Nancy Pelosi asked him to! An extra bonus Pelosi haha!”

      Again, Trump got what he wanted…a refocusing of the anger from him to the Congress. He made himself look like a reluctant hero in that he was just trying to undo a grevious constitutional error. And if Pelosi asked him to do it then it just demonstrates he really is willing to work wih democrats if they give him what he wants. You look a bit like an idiot laughing and dancing around while Trump gets what he wants and looks good while doing it.

      “It’s been verified, even by NPR now, that Mueller, who for some reason doesn’t trust the GOP, is sharing with NYAG…”

      You did it again…you are trying to compare apples to oranges and make it seem significant. WHY would Mueller share anything with the GOP? And HOW does that have any comparison with his sharing information with the NYAG? I guess Muller doesn’t trust the democrats either because he is not sharing with them, right? If your implication is that Mueller is going to feed information to the NYAG so they can prosecute him in New York and avoid a Presidential Pardon, that smacks a bit of Prosecutorial malfeasance, and I really don’t think Mueller is the type of prosecutor to get involved with that. I have no doubt Schniederman would do it because he is a pretty scuzzy politically driven lawyer, but Mueller wouldn’t. Despite your fiendish little cackle, I think you are going to be disappointed…again.

      “Hey, you don’t suppose that’s why Trump worked with Dems today?”

      No, I don’t. I think Trump got what he wanted. Enough said.

      “…but whatever, the debt ceiling is stupid, America pays her bills…”

      Maybe America shouldn’t be wracking up the bills it is. You don’t keep raising the credit limit on someone who is spending well beyond their means as a solution to their spending problem. Leave it to a leftist like you to see no problem with the government continuing to go in debt with no end in sight because you think everything good comes from the government.

      “Fake patriots, all of them.”

      You know, Tom, I have been subtle in the past, but the truth is you wouldn’t know a “patriot” if one bit you on the butt.

        • So, a couple of days ago AZBM had a link back to a BfA post from 2014. I looked at the comments and guess who was trolling? Man, that’s three years right there. That’s a long time to troll one blog.

          • Science is stupid, everyone knows that!

            Wait, oh, my, am I a troll? I need a moment for self-reflection…

            …..nope, I’m good, I troll trolls, which makes me awesome!

            Thanks science!

          • “I looked at the comments and guess who was trolling?”

            Was it me? Oh goody! You noticed! I have been here longer than that. I am a long term troll. I keep fresh and interesting and, well, I like posting here. I meet a lot of interesting people (and I use the word “interesting” in it’s loosest sense) and have lots of interesting exchanges. I certainly pre-date you and Tom and will probably stay here as long as they let me. I enjoy it. And thank you for noticing!

          • “Here’s Steve trying to interview a young lady.”

            Good catch, Wileybud! I think it is just delightful to hear prepubescent children using the “f” word. They are so mature, and wise, and funny, too! Aren’t they? That parent can be as proud of that child as Liza is.

          • Guess Steve missed that the interviewer called the girl a boy which is why she responded the way she did. Infowars deserves no more respect than what she gave. But then, like most conservatives you clutch your pearls and make a beeline to the fainting couch over an obscene (to you) reaction rather than the obvious stupidity that prompted it.

        • For Sure Not Tom

          “Science is stupid, everyone knows that!”

          In your hands, Tom, science truly is stupid.

          “Wait, oh, my, am I a troll?”

          Yes. Yes, you are. You like to think you are not, but you. Just like me, and Liza, and Wileybud, and all the rest. You are just a little more foul mouthed than the others.

          “…I need a moment for self-reflection…

          I wouldn’t bother, Tom…we have established you are incapable of it.

          “…..nope, I’m good, I troll trolls…”

          Which makes you what? A “sub-troll”? Sounds pathetic.

          “…which makes me awesome!”

          Only in your own mind, Tom.

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