A breakdown of budgets, deficits and debt at Drinking Liberally Sunday

David Safier

by David Safier The Drinking Liberally crew at the Shanty, 401 East 9th Street (corner of 9th Street & 4th Avenue), will be having its usual gathering this Sunday at 6pm. As always, it's free, and all are invited. The drinking part, of course, is optional. Advertisement Sunday's topic is "Budgets and Deficits and Debt, … Read more

AIRC First Round of Public Hearings

AZ BlueMeanie

Posted by AzBlueMeanie: The Arizona Independent Redistricting Commission has posted the First Round of public hearing dates and locations on its web site. http://www.azredistricting.org/docs/Public-Hearing-R1.pdf (see for full list of dates and locations). Public hearings here in Baja Arizona: Friday, July 22, 2011City of Nogales 6:00 p.m.Nogales Unified School District #1Administrative Building/District officeAnita Lichter Board Room310 Plum … Read more

Sen. Frank Antenori shoots his big mouth off again

AZ BlueMeanie

Posted by AzBlueMeanie: What is it will all of these Tea-Publicans and their gunplay imagery lately? Now Sen. "Don't make me angry" Frank Antenori shoots his big mouth off again in an interview with the Arizona Capitol Times Yellow Sheet Report (subscription required) "BREWER NOT CHAMPING AT THE BIT, EITHER" (July 14, 2011). The Yellow Sheet … Read more

Pima County GOP ousts chairman Brian Miller

AZ BlueMeanie

Posted by AzBlueMeanie: Since the Arizona Daily Star can't be bothered to send a reporter to cover even local political events of importance, here is a link to the KGUN 9 News report (sorry, no embed) KGUN 9 Video Galleries. Pima County GOP chairman Brian Miller was ousted from office last night on a vote of … Read more

The PCRP Smackdown at the Manning House

David Safier

by David Safier It was a scene. I never got into the Republican special meeting at the Manning House. The planned order of business is to amend the bylaws so their current embarrassment chair, Brian Miller, can be kicked out, then kick him out using the amended bylaws. When I left at 6pm, after standing … Read more

Rupertgate Update: Top executives resign

AZ BlueMeanie

Posted by AzBlueMeanie: The Rupertgate scandal grows exponentially every day and Friday was HUGE — this morning, Rebekah Brooks, the chief executive of Rupert Murdoch’s British newspaper operations resigned, followed this afternoon by Les Hinton, the chairman of Dow Jones, which publishes Murdoch's Wall Street Journal. The question is, which of Murdoch's top lieutenants will … Read more

Sorry Larry, but Barack Obama is not Mr. Spock playing a brilliant maneuver in 11-dimensional chess

AZ BlueMeanie

Posted by AzBlueMeanie:

ObamaSpock1 In early 2009, the media villagers became fixated on the notion of Barack Obama as Mr. Spock from Star Trek, and no, not because of his ears. It was because Obama was "too cool," never displaying human emotion, always rational and logical. Obama is Spock: It's quite logical – Salon.com.

This week Lawrence O'Donnell on his MSNBC program The Last Word has revived this notion that Barack Obama is Mr. Spock playing 11-dimensional chess with Republican negotiators who are too dumb to figure out they have walked into a trap, and that Obama's brilliant maneuver has delivered him victory. O'Donnell's point about Obama's position is that "there is no agreement until everything is agreed to." With all due respect, duh! That's known as the "meeting of the minds" in contract law.

Here is Lawrence O'Donnell's segment from Wednesday in which he describes Sen. Mitch McConnell's "backup" plan on raising the federal debt ceiling as retreat and surrender.

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Lawrence O'Donnell is an experienced Senate staffer who crafted complex budget packages during the Clinton years, and I have always found his political insights and analysis far closer to reality than other political commentators. But this strikes me as political spin not supported by any observable evidence.

I have often said that I would love to be negotiating a deal with President Obama because his opening position always seems to be to give the other side their opening position. Knowing this in advance always encourages overreaching by asking for the sun, the moon and the stars. If this is how they teach negotiation at Harvard Law School, an Ivy League education is vastly overrated. I haven't seen any evidence of Mr. Spock playing a brilliant maneuver in 11-dimensional chess in the past three years, and I don't see any evidence of it now.

What I do see is a president who genuinely believes in his "I want to be a post partisan president" rhetoric. Obama believes that if each side gives a little and gets a little that it somehow makes it a "centrist" solution and a win-win compromise for everyone. Kumbaya.

But as I explained earlier, when the starting point for one side is overreaching by asking for the sun, the moon and the stars, those negotiations are never going to wind up in equilibrium. The balance is always going to tilt hard to the side that engages in bad faith negotiations when they know that you are willing to capitulate to their overreaching demands to get the deal. "The deal" should never be an end unto itself. Sometimes you have to be willing to walk away from the table to get the deal you want later on.

That is why I have to agree with Joan McCarter at Daily Kos, whose opinion I also respect, over Lawrence O'Donnell on this matter. McCarter explains the "hybrid deal" being negotiated by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell for a 'Senate first" option. (It is never a wise move to put your fate in the hands of the Senate). Reid, McConnell working on 'hybrid' solution to bypass House GOP in debt standoff:

There's yet another proposal in the works on the debt-ceiling, this one from Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, which would couple McConnell's rather convoluted capitulation with big spending cuts. And no new revenues.

Senate Majority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.) is working with McConnell on this approach. Aides said the two are discussing a strategy that would pair McConnell’s debt-limit proposal with at least $1.5 trillion in spending cuts identified through bipartisan talks that Vice President Biden has led in recent weeks.

The deal also could create a committee of 12 lawmakers who would be assigned with identifying trillions of dollars in additional savings. The panel’s recommendations would be fast-tracked to votes in the House and the Senate and would not be subject to amendment, a process similar to the one Congress uses for closing military bases.

Congressional Democrats welcomed the approach, as did rank-and-file Republican senators. The Obama administration has reacted more cautiously, but views the approach as a last resort.

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Oh, just brilliant. We would get cuts, another pre-determined vote before election that again hangs the deficit around Obama's neck, and no revenue increase. And huge cuts to Medicaid, which were offered in the Biden talks. That's snatching defeat from the jaws of a potential clean debt ceiling vote. And on top of that it creates a new "deficit commission" compromised solely of lawmakers who would be tasked with finding additional savings in the budget," that would get "automatic, amendment-free votes in both chambers of Congress." You know how that would turn out: Republicans on the commission would demand privatized Social Security and Medicare and the Democrats would end up compromising the programs away.

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