The GQP Insurrection Caucus of the Arizona Senate did not have a good day in court on Wednesday. The Judge rejected their pathetic lawyer’s arguments that they are above the law and can do whatever the hell they want, any way that they want, because Republican legislators are our lords and masters and their actions shall not be questioned.
Howard Fischer reports, Judge: Audit policies, procedures open to public:
Arizonans are entitled to see the policies and procedures being used in the Senate’s audit of the 2020 election returns, a judge has ruled.
At a hearing Wednesday, attorney Kory Langhofer who represents the Senate, argued there are constitutional provisions that protect lawmakers from being sued. He argued these extend to work being done on behalf of the Senate by Cyber Ninjas, the private firm hired by Senate President Karen Fann to conduct the review.
And Langhofer said even if there are questions about how the audit is being conducted there’s no need for judicial intervention.
“The legislature can be trusted to handle its affairs responsibly,” he told Maricopa County Superior Court Judge Daniel Martin. “We have to trust the legislature will act responsibly.”
I’m surprised that Langhofer did not spontaneously combust into flames as the Devil came to claim his soul for such an outlandish lie.
Just as I explained previously:
Martin, however, said there’s no legal basis for those arguments.
He said one constitutional provision cited by Langhofer does protect lawmakers from “civil process” — having to be hauled into court — during the legislative session. But that, said Martin, does not extend to others, even if they are working under contract for the Senate.
There is another clause that spells out that no member of the legislature can be liable in any civil or criminal prosecution for words spoken in debate. And Martin said that might even apply to communications between lawmakers and their contractors.
But this, he said, isn’t that.
“The policies and procedures presently in issue cannot fairly be characterized as communications for that purpose,” Martin said. “And even if they could, they would not meet the standard (under Arizona case law) as matters that constitute an integral part of the legislative deliberative process.”
In ordering the documents made public, the judge also effectively rejected arguments by attorneys for Cyber Ninjas that what is in them constitutes some sort of trade secret.
Wednesday’s ruling may not be the end of the fight. Martin gave the attorneys for the Senate and Cyber Ninjas until noon Thursday to try to get an appellate judge to overturn or at least stay his disclosure order. Absent that, he said, the policies become public.
Martin, however, refused to put the audit on “hold” or otherwise restrict how it is being conducted at Veterans Memorial Coliseum. He said there was not enough evidence at this point to support such a move. [Because the evidence has not yet been produced to the plaintiffs].
But he did leave the door open to that issue depending on what the Arizona Democratic Party, which has sued to halt the audit, finds in the policies. Attorney Andy Gaona argued what is occurring is leaving the election equipment, the ballots and files with personally identifying information “to an audit that is being done by a known conspiracy theorist.
Martin, for his part, did not get into the issue of statements made by Cyber Ninjas CEO Doug Logan questioning whether Joe Biden really won the election.
Instead, he said, this is a simple question of law. And he said that, absent a clear showing of harm, Arizona court rules require pretty much everything introduced as evidence to be public.
What that also means is that any hearing into the adequacy of the company’s policies to protect the ballots and personal voter information will not be closed to the public, as Cyber Ninjas had asked.
Martin also ruled that attorneys representing Cyber Ninjas and the Arizona Senate failed to meet the requirements met to prove that the documents needed to be filed under seal.
Strictly speaking, Wednesday’s ruling, coming from a trial judge, sets no new precedents. But it still is a setback for the contention of Langhofer, on behalf of the Senate, that much of what lawmakers do, including this audit, is beyond the scope of the judicial branch to review.
Langhofer echoed statements by Fann that the audit is necessary so that lawmakers can find out what occurred in the 2020 election where Biden outpolled Trump in Arizona by 10,457 votes. That victory was gained by Maricopa County’s tally with the Democrat winning by 45,109 votes.
“They’ve got tens of thousands of [delusional] constituent calls that are very concerned about this,” he said. “Rightly or wrongly, there is widespread concern about the conduct of the 2020 election.”
Everyone understands that this is the real reason they're doing this, right? https://t.co/UUJbKFVj4X
— Jim Small (@JimSmall) April 29, 2021
This is not a legitimate basis based upon any actual evidence. What some conspiratorial nut job who spends his day reading QAnon message boards and MAGA emails from his “Dear Leader” believes is entirely irrelevant.
Since lawmakers don’t have personal knowledge of what actually happened to speak about it and craft legislation, they hired Cyber Ninjas to conduct a review, Langhofer said. And that, he argued, makes the conduct of the audit protected by the “speech and debate” clause of the Arizona Constitution.
Gaona, however, said none of that shields the taxpayer-funded audit — and the promised protections of ballot security as well as transparency in the process — from public scrutiny.
Anyway, he noted, both Fann and former Secretary of State Ken Bennett, whom she hired to be the Senate’s liaison to Cyber Ninjas, already have made multiple statements about the audit and the procedures, all assuring the public that everything was being done in a transparent fashion.
“They should not be permitted to pick and choose which communications are withheld from the public, and even from the parties in this case,” Gaona said, pointing out to Martin that Cyber Ninjas, while ordered by the court to produce the policies for review, won’t even share them with the challengers.
Gaona also asked Martin to brush aside Langhofer’s argument that the court — and, by extension, the public — should trust the Senate, Cyber Ninjas and the policies to protect the ballots, equipment and voter information.
“I think that ship has long since sailed,” he said.
“There is no trust currently in the legislature,” Gaona continued. “And if the idea here is, as President Fann has repeatedly urged, is that this was to be a transparent process, one that would be fair and that we could all trust the results of, then the simple thing for them to do is to release these policies and procedures for public scrutiny.”
Cyber Ninjas needs to complete its review by May 14, the day its temporary lease of Veterans Memorial Coliseum runs out.
An attorney representing Secretary of State Katie Hobbs also made a motion in Wednesday’s hearing asking for the state’s top elections official to be allowed to inspect the audit and its location.
Martin gave attorneys in the case until 5 p.m. Wednesday to work out a deal for Hobbs to inspect the audit and, if no deal is struck, each side will file legal briefs by noon Thursday and Martin will consider their arguments.
And what about the issue of who is paying for this sham “fraudit”?
Supposedly Patrick Byrne is also raising 2.8 million for the audit?? This is his org.https://t.co/nGIjXdWzBt
— AZ Right Wing Watch (@az_rww) April 28, 2021
We’ll find out today whether there is an appeal, or Cyber Ninjas and the AZ Senate produce the documents as ordered by the Judge.
UPDATE: Where’s Jimmy Carter and international election monitors when we really need them?
BREAKING 'We are very concerned that auditors are engaged in ongoing & imminent violations of
federal voting & election laws': Elections experts call on US Department of Justice to send election monitors to Arizona Senate Republicans' audit of 2020 vote. https://t.co/25wAli45rk pic.twitter.com/jbajmbizOb— Brahm Resnik (@brahmresnik) April 29, 2021
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1:46PM was in reply to AZBM’s 12:10. Why it landed on top of the thread is beyond me.
It never ceases to amaze. These clowns were on the same ballot as their “Fearful Leader”, yet in their eyes his defeat is illegitimate yet their win is without question. What a quandary they’re in! Refute the Big Lie or their electoral wins?
What are the odds this nonsense we say, “there was absolutely no problems with the voting, nor the results, everything was correct”? What is below absolute zero? Fann, Ward, Kavanagh, and the whole gang of crooks HAVE to find something to justify all this bluster and money grab.
You are correct. To verify the results would be to refute the Big Lie, which they cannot do because their entire election strategy and raft of voter suppression laws is built upon it. They want to take this clown show on the road to other states.
The Republican Party is made up of grifters and con artists. E.J. Montini writes, “Arizona’s Republican-sponsored election audit is a ‘Nigerian prince’ scam”, https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/ej-montini/2021/04/28/arizona-election-audit-nigerian-prince-scam-republicans/4871620001/
I’m wondering now if the chief fundraising strategist for the Arizona Republican Party is that infamous “Nigerian prince” from whom just about everyone in America has received an email.
You know the one.
He tells you he is descended from royalty and is trying desperately to get an enormous inheritance out of his country but he needs your help, for which he’ll provide you a sizable reward. He can’t do this under his own name, so all you need to do is help him by providing a “processing fee” or perhaps even your bank account number.
And, yes, it actually works. Hundreds of thousands of dollars are turned over to various princely con men each year.
Flimflam artists like this succeed by appealing to our worst traits, and to our best – greed, fear, indignation, loyalty, charity.
Former President Donald Trump was an expert at this.
Trump performed a ‘bait and switch’
For example, when it became clear he had lost the presidential election, Trump knew he was going to face some serious legal challenges as a private citizen.
Expensive legal challenges.
Being a wealthy man, however, he couldn’t simply ask average Americans to send money that would benefit him alone. So he asked them instead to send money that, supposedly, would benefit THEM.
He created the “Save America” committee, and working with the Republican National Committee sent fundraising emails and texts to tens of thousands of supporters urging them to donate to his committee to help him fight what he said was widespread election fraud.
These requests continued up to the time the mob was attacking the U.S. Capitol, and they brought Trump a huge windfall, roughly $76 million.
Of which he has spent practically nothing on investigating election fraud.
And he doesn’t need to.
He can, and probably will, use the money for whatever he wants.
In the flimflam game they call that a “bait and switch.”
Now, there’s an audit no one will believe
In Arizona, the political farce that is the Republican-sponsored election audit is a bit like that.
First, the Republican-controlled state Senate hired a company with no experience doing election audits, a company founded by a conspiracy-spouting guy who posted unsubstantiated allegations about election fraud on Twitter.
Then they tried to keep the press out of their vote counting process. Perhaps because it was more chaos than process.
Then they admitted they can’t guarantee all political parties will be included as observers. Then they brought in former elected Republican Ken Bennett to oversee things, a man who denies he was an Obama “birther,” though as secretary of state he talked of keeping the former president’s name off the election ballot unless Hawaii could prove to him that Obama was born there.
Also, the people running this sideshow haven’t been particularly forthcoming on how they’re going to protect the private information of voters, which could include signatures, driver license numbers and the last four digits of your Social Security number.
Farce.
No one – not one person – except those who already believe in the fantasy of voter fraud will take anything these people say seriously, and nothing they are doing is going to change the outcome of the election.
So, why do it?
Why do it? To reel in the easy marks
For the same reason that phony “Nigerian prince” sent you an email. The same reason Trump asked you to support his committee: Money.
The idea is to keep people riled up. Appeal to their emotions. Then hit them up for cash.
As Arizona Republic reporter Yvonne Wingett Sanchez pointed out in a recent story, Arizona Republican Party chair Kelli Ward is sending video emails to supporters asking them to fork over some dough in order to help the party continue with the audit, saying, “It’s a fight and we need your help to keep it going …”
They’re even asking supporters to check a box on the fundraising page in which these trusting souls would agree to hand over monthly donations.
Very slick.
I don’t believe even Trump or the “Nigerian prince” thought of that.