The final countdown on the Senate GOP tax bill has begun: call your senators now


The Senate voted 52-48 along party lines Wednesday to begin debate on the Senate GOP tax bill. Several Republicans who have not committed to voting for the final bill, including Sens. Collins, McCain, Corker and Flake, voted in favor of moving forward to debate. But final passage could be another story.

Currently there is no firm agreement on the trigger provision Sen. Corker wants, no pay-for to partially keep the state and local tax deductions Sen. Collins wants, and no language on the pass-through changes for small businesses sought by Sens. Johnson and Daines. Senate Republicans are about to overhaul the tax code, and they don’t know what’s in their bill yet;

Senate Republicans are in such a rush to pass a tax overhaul in the next few days that they voted to start debate on a bill that could still undergo a bevy of last-minute changes they haven’t seen in writing — changes that could dramatically affect the US economy over the next decade.

But most Republicans aren’t letting some last-minute deal cutting that could mean billions of dollars in tax increases, tax cuts, or federal spending cuts get in the way of moving the bill along.

Even Sen. Bob Corker (R-TN), who’s one of the senators most skeptical of the bill and is pushing for the major addition of automatic tax hikes if the federal deficit grows too quickly, voted to start debate on the bill. He had told reporters earlier that he couldn’t describe the changes “until we get it in writing.” Corker later told reporters they could “throw away” anything they’d heard about the deal because it is “still evolving.”

What we don’t know about the Senate tax bill right now

Everything is open for negotiation as Senate Republicans search for their elusive 50th vote. President Trump came to the Capitol on Tuesday and seemed willing to agree to about anything, even stabilizing Obamacare, to grease the wheels for a big corporate tax cut.

Significant changes are under discussion to assuage senators worried about pass-through businesses (Johnson and Steve Daines of Montana), the federal deficit (Corker and Jeff Flake of Arizona), and the child tax credit (Marco Rubio of Florida and Mike Lee of Utah), as well as Susan Collins, the Senate’s most moderate Republican, who wants to change the treatment of state and local taxes and to stabilize Obamacare.

Those changes could redistribute hundreds of billions of dollars in the US economy. One outside tax expert guesstimated that Johnson’s desired change for pass-through businesses would cost something like $55 billion over 10 years.
These are the major issues still up for debate as the Senate speeds toward a vote on its tax plan:

  • The Corker trigger. Corker wants to set up automatic tax hikes if the federal deficit grows too quickly under the GOP tax plan. We don’t know what the threshold would be to initiate those tax increases or which taxes would be increased. Some senators would rather trigger automatic spending cuts instead of tax hikes under this plan.
  • The pass-through issue. Johnson and Daines have pushed to bump up the share of business income that owners of these pass-through businesses can deduct and exempt from taxation, from 17.5 percent to 20 percent. (By late Wednesday, Johnson was proposing even bigger tax cuts.)
  • The state and local tax deduction. The Senate’s bill would currently completely eliminate this deduction, to the tune of $1 trillion over 10 years. But Collins wants to allow people to continue deducting up to $10,000 in property taxes, which Trump is said to have agreed to.
  • The Rubio-Lee child tax credit. The two senators want to further expand the child tax credit and pay for it by slashing the corporate rate slightly less (to 22 percent instead of 20 percent). That could cost, by one outside estimate, $200 billion or more. Trump is said to oppose this proposal.

That’s hundreds of billions of dollars at stake via details still being ironed out, behind the scenes, on the same day that the Senate voted to start debate on the bill.

This is not how a major rewrite of the tax code is to be done. This is an abomination of the legislative process. It is GOP authoritarianism run amok.

The final countdown on the Senate GOP tax bill has begun, and procedural maneuvers by the Septuagenarian Ninja Turtle, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, are going to determinative of what the Senate is actually voting on. Dylan Scott explains The final steps for the Republican tax bill in the Senate:

Senate Republicans have entered a frantic rush to put a tax overhaul on the Senate floor in the next few days. Republicans are readying a bevy of last-minute changes that could redirect billions of dollars in the US economy over the next decade, changes that senators hadn’t even seen in writing mere hours before they voted to start debate on the tax bill.

But the bill has cleared its first important hurdle. The Senate voted on Wednesday evening, 52 to 48, to start debate on the Republican tax plan.

But that’s really just the opening act. Over the next two days, the fate of the nation’s tax code will be adjudicated on the Senate floor.

The centerpiece of the Republican tax plan is a huge corporate tax cut, at a time when most Americans think businesses should be taxed more, not less. It also slashes taxes on “pass-through” businesses disproportionately used by rich people (like President Trump) to lower their tax burden. The top tax rate for the richest Americans would also be cut, and the estate tax for wealthy inheritances would be rolled back.

More changes could be made on the Senate floor, where a process colloquially called “vote-a-rama” could force some tough votes for lawmakers on both sides and, maybe, change the substance of the final plan that the Senate passes. How this all shakes out could determine whether — and, more importantly, how — Republicans overhaul the nation’s tax code for the next generation.

The path forward is complex. Here’s what happens next.

1) McConnell technically made a motion to start debate on the House tax bill. That step — known as the motion to proceed — required 51 votes.

Even some skeptics of the tax bill like Sens. Bob Corker (R-TN) and Jeff Flake (R-AZ) voted in favor of opening the debate. It would have been a shock if the Senate failed to even start debate on the bill.

2) The Senate would debate the House legislation on the floor for 20 hours, with that time divided evenly between Republicans and Democrats. That’s 20 hours of debate time, not real time, so the debate could last a couple of days.

3) At the end of the debate, there would be a vote-a-rama, during which senators can offer an unlimited number of amendments to the bill. Amendments that are considered “germane” to the tax legislation need 51 votes to be added to the bill.

4) At some point, either before or after the vote-a-rama, McConnell would offer the Senate bill as a substitute for the House bill. The timing would depend on whether McConnell wants the amendments brought up during vote-a-rama to be added to the final bill. This will be a key decision: If McConnell waits until the end to introduce his substitute, then none of the amendments that were added during vote-a-rama will actually be part of the final legislation.

The “when” of the substitution is crucial: If, purely hypothetically, a proposal by Sens. Marco Rubio (R-FL) and Mike Lee (R-UT) is approved and added to the House bill but the Senate bill is substituted later, that policy change would not actually be in the bill that comes up for final passage.

5) The Senate would take a final vote on passage of the amended Senate bill. That would require 51 votes. Just because the tax bill got a majority to start debate doesn’t mean it will get the votes to pass. The health care debate was started, but then every bill that Republicans put forward failed to get 51 votes. Several Republicans — Corker, Flake, John McCain, Susan Collins — are thought to be on the fence.

Vice President Mike Pence could break a 50-50 tie.

6) If the Senate passes the bill, the House could either take it up and pass it as is or the two chambers could enter into conference negotiations to produce a new plan.

Both the Senate and House would need to pass the conference bill, which requires 50 votes again in the Senate and a bare majority, 218 members, in the House.

7) Once both chambers have passed the same tax bill, President Trump would sign it into law.

The Arizona Daily Star editorialized, Principles dictate ‘no’ vote on tax bill for McCain and Flake: “We ask that Sens. John McCain and Jeff Flake continue to stand by their principles and vote ‘no’ on this tax bill.”

The Arizona Republic has not (yet) taken an editorial position, but columnist Laurie Roberts writes John McCain can lead (again) with his vote on Senate tax bill: “All eyes are on McCain (and Sen. Jeff Flake) as the Senate prepares to vote on President Donald Trump’s must-have tax cut bill.”

Flagstaff’s Arizona Daily Sun editorialized, Republicans’ haste warps their tax legislation: “[T]here should be a clear path for deficit hawks like Senator Bob Corker of Tennessee and Jeff Flake of Arizona, or defense hawks like McCain, to send this bill back to the Finance Committee for real hearings, review, debate and analysis. That’s called regular order.”

Seung Min Kim from POLITICO asked Sen. McCain where he stands on the Senate GOP tax bill. His response:

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This is remarkably similar to comments McCain made before he took to the floor of the Senate to excoriate his Senate colleagues about the need for bipartisanship and regular order and voting against the “Obamacare” repeal. The very same conditions exist here. It’s time for another lecture from Senator McCain.

Just a reminder, Senator McCain voted against the Bush tax cuts that favored corporations and the wealthy over the middle class. If John McCain takes his own words seriously, he can’t back this tax bill:

McCain also has a history of opposing tax plans that favor the nation’s wealthy at the expense of its middle class. He voted against the George W. Bush tax cuts twice, one of only a few Republicans to oppose them, on those grounds. Most analyses project that the top 1 percent would yield most of the benefits of this new Republican tax plan and many poor and middle-class Americans would actually pay higher taxes than now.

McCain could very well vote to start debate on the tax bill, which is expected to come as soon as Wednesday [he did], much as he did in the health care drama. He doesn’t want to hold up the process. But when the actual vote to pass the plan comes, all eyes will be on him and his thumb once again. Up or down?

Senator Jeff Flake, however, voted for “Obamacare” repeal. Flake has built his career around being a deficit peacock. The GOP tax bill explodes the federal deficit and adds to the national debt. Just once in his Senate career before he goes he should do the right thing and vote against this terrible GOP tax bill. It’s time for your “Profiles in Courage” moment senator.

Call Sens. John McCain and Jeff Flake now and demand that they vote against this terrible GOP tax bill.


  1. Satire from The Borowitz Report
    Kim Jong Un Fears That G.O.P. Tax Bill Makes His Plan to Destroy U.S. Redundant

    By Andy Borowitz10:55 A.M.

    PYONGYANG (The Borowitz Report)—Kim Jong Un is concerned that his long-standing plan to destroy the United States has been made totally irrelevant by the Republican tax bill moving through the Senate, a source close to the North Korean dictator said on Friday.

    The source, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, said that Kim fears that his scheme to turn the United States into an uninhabitable hellhole has been to a large extent upstaged by a similar proposal from congressional Republicans.

    “After having such a wonderful missile test, he should be on top of the world this week,” the source said. “Instead, he’s afraid that all his hard work has been for nothing. He now understands why so many Americans despise the Republicans.”

      • I’ve been unable to participate in the gaiety because of this tax scam bill and that really ticks me off. It would have been such a fun day.

  2. they don’t care about your opinion. republicans act of fear and greed not decency because they are not. over on fox they are screaming about the not guilty verdict in the kate steinlen case. the jury was sending a message to trump just as the o.j. simpson jury retaliated for rodney king. you good government liberals say thats terrible to retaliate in the limited way we are alowed too. much better to act like a punching bag for conservatives and whine about it instead of doing something about it. for years here I have advocated jury nullification as away to strike back and put fear into the republicans who run this state ;but you think its safer to just whine and complain! how many of you really think a republican senator will listen to you?

    • No one has deluded themselves into thinking that Republican legislators care what their constituents think. That’s why they’re so devoted to voter suppression strategies because they want to silence us any way they can.

      But this is not a reason for us to suffer in silence. These mofos intend to change the country in ways that possibly cannot be reversed, certainly not in our lifetime, what we’ve got left. And they are pursuing their agenda with a recklessness that might be unprecedented.

      We do what we can, Captain. Now get yo’ ass over to that phone and make some calls.

    • Recklessness, just sheer recklessness, complete and total disregard for the consequences…

      “Warning signs are flashing ev’ry where, but we pay no heed
      ‘Stead of slowing down the place, we keep a pickin’ up speed
      Disaster’s getting closer ev’ry time we meet
      Going ninety miles an hour down a dead end street”

  3. Rubio: Offset Tax Cuts By Reducing Social Security, Medicare Benefits


    Tax reform is only one piece of the overall puzzle needed to revitalize the American economy, Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) told a group of Washington, D.C., lobbyists and policy analysts this morning at a Politico Playbook Interview sponsored by the Financial Services Roundtable. The other part? Reduce the deficit and offset the cost of the reform, which the Congressional Budget Office estimates at $1.3 trillion.

    “I analyze this very differently than most,” Rubio told the crowd. “Many argue that you can’t cut taxes because it will drive up the deficit. But we have to do two things. We have to generate economic growth which generates revenue, while reducing spending. That will mean instituting structural changes to Social Security and Medicare for the future,” the senator said.

    If lawmakers can act strategically sooner rather than later to come up with some combination of reforms to reduce benefits and raise retirement age, the pain of change and reduced benefits will be greatly mitigated, said the lawmaker who ran for president in 2016 and is once again sounding presidential.

    “We don’t need to reduce benefits on current retirees or even near-term retirees, but we can make changes for future generations such as mine, and do so in a way that people can prepare for, so the changes will barely be felt,” Rubio said.–offset-tax-cuts-by-reducing-social-security–medicare-benefits-35928.html

    • Senate Tax Bill Would Trigger Medicare Cuts
      by Dena Bunis, AARP, November 28, 2017

      If you read through the umpteen pages of the Senate tax bill, you won’t find a clause that says it dramatically cuts Medicare spending. But the effect of the legislation being debated this week would be to slash up to $25 billion from the health program in 2018 and possibly more in the future.

      That’s because the tax measure would prompt the “pay-as-you-go” law, commonly referred to as PAYGO…

      The Senate tax proposal would add $1.5 trillion to the federal deficit over the next 10 years. Under PAYGO, if this bill were to become law, the government would have to lop off $150 billion in spending every year for 10 years.

      Medicaid, Social Security, food stamps and other social safety net programs are exempt from the PAYGO law, which went into effect in 2010. But Medicare and other programs — such as federal student loans, agricultural subsidies and the operations of the Customs and Border Patrol — are not exempt.

      The law caps how much the government can trim from Medicare at 4 percent. That’s $25 billion the first year…

      The $25 billion reduction would affect the payments that doctors, hospitals and other health care providers receive for treating Medicare patients. Individual benefits would not change and neither would premiums, deductibles or copays. But with so much less money going to providers, the cuts could have major impacts on patient access to health care — such as fewer physicians accepting Medicare patients.

      Congress has the authority to waive the PAYGO law and forestall such cuts. But it is not yet clear whether lawmakers would do so. And waiving the rules would simply cause higher deficits in later years.

  4. Yep, this is true but the Republicans keep lying about it.

    Bernie Sanders‏Verified account
    4h4 hours ago

    Trickle-down economics failed under Ronald Reagan, under George W. Bush and in the state of Kansas under Gov. Brownback. It is a fraudulent theory cooked up by think tanks funded by the wealthy.

  5. Republicans and Trump to the middle class, in middle America, drop dead suckers! This is what you get for blind voting.

  6. POLITICS NOV 30 2017, 5:16 PM ET
    John McCain, key Republican holdout, backs Senate tax bill
    by JANE C. TIMM

    Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., threw his support behind the Republican tax plan Thursday, boosting the bill’s chances of passage ahead of an expected late-night vote.

    McCain said that while the Senate bill is “far from perfect,” he believes it will “enhance American competitiveness, boost the economy and provide long overdue tax relief for middle class families.”

    • Call McCain now!

      Phoenix Office
      2201 East Camelback Road
      Suite 115
      Phoenix, AZ 85016
      Main: (602) 952-2410
      Fax: (855) 952-8702

      Tucson Office
      407 West Congress Street
      Suite 103
      Tucson, AZ 85701
      Main: (520) 670-6334
      Fax: (855) 952-8702

      Washington Office
      218 Russell Senate Office Building
      Washington, DC 20510
      Main: (202) 224-2235
      Fax: (202) 228-2862

      • I’ve done both forms, thanks Liza. They’re going to pass a bill to get a 20% corporate rate no matter what.

        And by no matter what means we’re all screwed.

        FYI, expect spam from McCain at least, if not both of them. I’ve done this before and McCain started thinking I wanted his monthly “I’m so great” newsletters.

        There will be no opt-out, so just set a rule to delete them if they bother you.

    • And as for Jeff Flake and this…

      “Just once in his Senate career before he goes he should do the right thing and vote against this terrible GOP tax bill.”

      I suspect that Flake has plans for a new career that is dependent upon the goodwill of the GOP, especially the wealthy donors and corporate masters. Sure, he hates Trump but Trump is temporary.

      Even so, we should keep calling Flake’s offices, RELENTLESSLY.

      Washington, D.C. Office
      Senate Russell Office Building 413
      Washington, D.C. 20510
      P: 202-224-4521
      F: 202-228-0515

      Phoenix Office
      2200 East Camelback Road
      Suite 120
      Phoenix, AZ 85016
      P: 602-840-1891
      F: 602-840-4092

      Tucson Office
      6840 North Oracle Road
      Suite 150
      Tucson, AZ 85704
      P: 520-575-8633
      F: 520-797-3232

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