What comes next after Trump’s executive order


President Trump’s recent executive order allegedly ending his family-separation policy (illegal under the Flores Settlement Agreement), by ordering families to be detained together indefinitely (also illegal under the Flores Settlement Agreement), did NOT end his zero tolerance enforcement policy. It rather directed his Department of Justice to move the court for revisions to the Flores Settlement Agreement to allow the administration to do what is doing in order to make it legal ex post facto.

On Thursday, the DOJ went to court to do just that. Trump administration seeks approval from judge to detain immigrant families together:

The Trump administration asked a federal judge in California on Thursday to permit federal agents to detain together those families suspected of illegally entering the country, in the wake of an outcry over the government’s recent practice of separating children from their parents.

The Justice Department filed court papers Thursday seeking a modification to a judge’s order in a long-running court case about how immigrants are detained.

The case, known as Flores v. Sessions, dates back to the Reagan administration, when a 15-year-old girl from El Salvador sued over the conditions of her confinement.

In the case, U.S. District Court judge Dolly M. Gee had previously ruled against the Obama administration over the same issue, finding in 2015 that it had violated the terms of the settlement in the case by detaining mothers and their children in poor conditions.

Note: The Obama administration was using short-term detentions to sort things out, not indefinite detentions as the Trump administration proposes.

At the time, the judge ordered such detainees released because of what she called “widespread deplorable conditions” during their time in the custody of Border Patrol agents.

“Under current law and legal rulings, including this court’s, it is not possible for the U.S. government to detain families together during the pendency of their immigration proceedings,” the Justice Department lawyers wrote in their filing. “It cannot be done.”

The inability to detain parents and children together “creates a continued incentive for parents to bring their children on the dangerous journey to the United States and to enter the country illegally,” the Justice Department lawyers argued in their papers. “[T]he emergency currently existing on the southwest border requires immediate action. This court can take such action to help address this urgent problem.”

The Trump administration expects to lose this case. The political strategy here is to shift blame for the humanitarian crisis that they have manufactured onto the “liberal” judges of the Ninth Circuit who have “tied our hands” and won’t allow us to warehouse immigrant families in internment camps on military bases. (Who Is Dolly Gee, the Judge Deciding the Fate of Trump’s Executive Order). We are forced to separate children from their “criminal” parents — many of whom are here lawfully applying for asylum. (This is also illegal under the Flores Settlement Agreement). Just watch our Twitter-troll-in-chief’s twitter feed on this.

Multiple states on Thursday announced they are also suing the Trump administration over its policy of separating families who illegally cross the U.S.-Mexico border. Democratic AGs to sue Trump administration over family separations. The lawsuit, to be filed Thursday in U.S. District Court in Washington state, alleges that the Trump administration violated the due process rights of parents and children who were separated. The lawsuit will ask the court to order the Trump administration to reunite families affected by the executive order. New York has announced a separate lawsuit against the Trump administration over its family separation practices.

The current “emergency” was manufactured by the Trump administration by violating the law for the political purpose of generating enthusiasm among “Dear Leader’s” xenophobic white nationalist racist cult in an election year. There’s no immigration crisis, and these charts prove it:

The humanitarian crisis involving immigrant children at the U.S.-Mexico border has, among other things, laid bare a number of falsehoods driving much of the Trump administration’s immigration agenda.

The administration has said that the country is in danger of being “overwhelmed” by “massive increases in illegal crossings” that will bring “horrible crime,” “unbelievably great taxpayer expense” and the loss of American jobs.

None of those claims are true.

Below, we’ve compiled some of Wonkblog’s coverage highlighting the latest data and research shedding light on erroneous beliefs about immigration in the United States.

Myth No. 1: Undocumented immigrants are flooding into the United States

In fiscal 2017, apprehensions of immigrants entering illegally at the Southwest border (a proxy for the total number of individuals crossing the border illegally) hit their lowest level in 46 years.Apprehensions are up by about 12 percent in the current fiscal year. If that pace holds up for the rest of the year, we’ll close out 2018 with the fourth-lowest number of illegal-immigration apprehensions in at least four decades.

Myth No. 2: Undocumented immigrants bring crime

The reality is just the opposite: A large body of social-science literature has demonstrated that immigrants, legal or otherwise, commit crime at lower rates than native-born Americans. This chart, using Texas Department of Public Safety data compiled by the libertarian Cato Institute, illustrates this quite clearly.“

Although ardent skeptics may remain unconvinced,” another recent study concluded, “the weight of the evidence presented here and in supporting work challenges claims that unauthorized immigration endangers the public.”

Myth No. 3: Immigrants take our jobs and lower our wages

This is a more complicated question than the previous two. The best information comes from a massive summary of the literature published by the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering and Medicine (NASEM) in 2017. “Most studies find little effect of immigration on the employment of natives,” that report concluded. In other words, no, immigrants are not taking your jobs.

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Myth No. 4: Immigrants are a drain on the economy

In fact, research by the Cato Institute has found that poor noncitizens are considerably less likely than poor native-born Americans to use public assistance programs.Not only that, but “the average value of benefits per recipient is almost always lower than for the native-born,” the report found. “For Medicaid, if there are 100 native-born adults, the annual cost of benefits would be about $98,400, while for the same number of noncitizen adults the annual cost would be approximately $57,200.”

The NASEM report found that, in the long run, the typical immigrant and that person’s descendants will pay about $259,000 more in taxes than they receive in government benefits.

The report’s bottom line, based on its analysis of hundreds of economic studies: “Immigration is integral to the nation’s economic growth. The inflow of labor supply has helped the United States avoid the problems facing other economies that have stagnated as a result of unfavorable demographics, particularly the effects of an aging workforce and reduced consumption by older residents. In addition, the infusion of human capital by high-skilled immigrants has boosted the nation’s capacity for innovation, entrepreneurship and technological change.”

Here’s what we can say in conclusion. Current rates of illegal immigration remain extremely low by historic standards. Legal and undocumented immigrants are significantly less likely to commit most crimes than native-born citizens, making them a net benefit to public safety. The research shows that immigrants are not taking jobs away from U.S. natives, and their impact on wages appears to be small to nonexistent, particularly across the long term.

Immigration appears to be crucial to economic growth, particularly as native-born fertility rates decline.[See, Fewer Births Than Deaths Among Whites in Majority of U.S. States]. More immigration leads to a stronger economy, particularly on the long-term horizon.

But here’s the thing: the worshippers in the Cult of Donald Trump and his state propaganda machine at the fact-free world of FAUX News aka “Trump TV,” and the conservative media entertainment complex writ large, don’t give a damn about the facts, they are the ones who manufactured these immigration myths. They are all about encouraging white resentment and the fear and loathing of “others” as a political strategy. Republicans Dislike Separating Families. But They Like ‘Zero Tolerance’ More. Recent polling shows that Trumpkin Republicans are the only demographic group who support Trump’s cruel and inhumane immigration policy.

In the latest developments, the U.S. Prepares Housing Up to 20,000 Migrants on Military Bases in internment camps. This is turning our military into jailers. In addition, the Defense Dept. to Help Justice Dept. Prosecute Immigration Cases: Twenty-one lawyers for the Defense Department “will work full-time, assisting in prosecuting reactive border immigration cases, with a focus on misdemeanor improper entry and felony illegal re-entry cases,” the department said in a statement. The assignment is to last for about six months.

I’m pretty sure that using our military to enforce domestic laws as prosecutors and jailers is a violation of the Posse Comitatus Act. There is likely little or no legal precedents on this subject.

In any event, three U.S. Senators have raised objections to JAG officers being reassigned to the Department of Justice as prosecutors in immigration courts. Iowa Sen. Joni Ersnt ‘deeply troubled’ by use of military lawyers for immigration cases:

Iowa Sen. Joni Ernst Thursday joined Democratic senators in objecting to the Department of Defense’s decision to use military lawyers to prosecute immigration cases.

“These 21 JAGs are being directed to practice wholly outside of their training, within the vast and complex immigration arena,” Ernst, a Republican, said in a letter to Defense Secretary James Mattis. The letter about the military lawyers, also knowns as Judge Advocates or JAGs, was co-signed by Sens. Kristen Gillibrand, D-NY, and Patrick Leahy, D-VT.

The letter said that the senators are “deeply troubled” by the Defense Department’s decision to send 21 military attorneys to handle immigration matters.

“Pulling 21 trial counsel from military courtrooms to prosecute immigration cases is an inappropriate misapplication of military personnel,” they wrote.

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  1. Sharing a comment from another blog:

    June 20, 2018 at 11:35 am
    “The greatest country in the world, and this bunch of dumb, ignorant, semi-literate, immoral, unscrupulous, tobacco-chewing, treasonous, alt-right buffoons are calling the shots …And we the people are actually allowing this farce to continue…


  2. We know that many, many immigrants have applied for refugee status, been denied, and then deported back to their country of origin. What has happened to them when they got back? Have they really been victims of the violence they originally fled?

    I posted this question on another thread but still haven’t seen a good answer.

    • As I told you before, there is no follow up on these people.

      Your question can’t be answered, and I think you already know that.

      • Liza,
        I think the question can be answered. Apparently neither you nor I have the answer but if someone had a few resources (i.e. dollars) they could do the work to find the answer. I keep asking in hopes someone has the answer and will share it or will be stimulated to do the research to get the answer. There is at least a Master’s thesis in this and perhaps a Doctoral dissertation and a book. Surely a government agency or a private institution could be found to fund the work.

        • I’ve seen a few reports about people that asked for asylum but were sent back and have been killed, but I’ve only seen a handful of them.

          So it’s anecdotal, but since I believe most of these people are being threatened by the American created MS-13 gang, I’m pretty sure a more comprehensive investigation would find similar outcomes.

  3. Posted today by The Southern Poverty Law Center.

    The ugly truth about President Trump’s extreme anti-immigrant campaign
    June 22, 2018 by Richard Cohen

    We can’t trust anything the administration says at this point. But if there’s one thing we can count on, it’s that very little about its brutish deportation campaign will change. And it may even get worse. The Pentagon has been told to prepare to detain as many as 20,000 “unaccompanied alien children.”

    Even with Trump’s apparent reversal, families that attempt to cross the border will still be detained in prison-like facilities. The Justice Department is now asking a judge to allow the government to detain children and their families longer than the 20 days now allowed under a previous court settlement.

    What’s more, the issue is not isolated to the border. All across the country, immigrants who’ve been woven into their communities for years are being snatched off the streets and sent to remote immigration prisons. Many leave children and shattered communities behind.

    Trump has proven in many ways – his contempt for the free press, his embrace of authoritarian leaders, his attacks on the courts – that he won’t be constrained by our democratic norms, our respect for human rights or even basic human decency.

    His roundup of immigrants, in fact, is beginning to resemble a sort of ethnic cleansing campaign. It’s the kind of thing that’s long been envisioned by the followers of John Tanton, the white nationalist who fathered the modern anti-immigrant movement.

    Back in 1993, Tanton wrote to the ecologist Garrett Hardin, an advocate of eugenics: “I’ve come to the point of view that for European-American society and culture to persist requires a European-American majority, and a clear one at that.”

    Tanton is now retired and no longer active in the various hate groups he founded.

    But his legacy lives on in the Trump administration, in the personas of Attorney General Jeff Sessions and top Trump aide Stephen Miller, two architects of the president’s immigration policies. Both have been closely associated with the network of nativist groups that Tanton founded, including the flagship Federation for American Immigration Reform.

    Tanton must be proud.

    Yesterday, when First Lady Melania Trump, herself an immigrant from Europe, boarded a plane to visit a detention center near the border she wore a jacket with these words on the back: “I really don’t care. Do U?”

    The answer is that we care deeply about all immigrants. And so should everyone else.


    • I try to ignore the First Gold Digger Third Wife. She’s the least of our problems. But her stunt with the jacket yesterday, and yes it was a stunt, certainly revealed who she is. No surprise really, she was 100% behind Trump’s racist Birther campaign and she is 100% behind his agenda.

      The Peoples House has been defiled by her presence just as much as it has by Trump. They are two peas in a very ugly pod. Despicable, sub human trash.

      It’s just one big reality show to them. A stunt here and a stunt there while they commit crimes against humanity.

      Donald J. Trump Verified account

      “I REALLY DON’T CARE, DO U?” written on the back of Melania’s jacket, refers to the Fake News Media. Melania has learned how dishonest they are, and she truly no longer cares!

      2:51 PM – 21 Jun 2018

      • When you say, First Gold Digger Third Wife, you left out nude model. Melania Trump was a nude model.

        If you google the picks, don’t do it at work. They’re Playboy level nekkid, but nekkid’ all the same.

        And she was here “modeling” illegally for a while, she did not have a work visa at the time.

        It’s weird, right? Our racist POTUS’s wife is a nekkid’ illegal alien FLOTUS.

        It’s weird to live in a time where I’ve seen the FLOTUS naked. And it’s weird that the POTUS leaked the nudes of FLOTUS to the press years ago.

        And it’s weird that evangelicals support the pussy-grabby POTUS and his nekkid’ illegal immigrant FLOTUS.

        So it should be First Gold Digger Third Wife Illegal Alien Nekkid’ Model Who Doesn’t Care About Children, for clarity.

        • TY for that clarification.

          It’s interesting how MSM has desperately tried to normalize the vapid third wife, much the same as they did for Trump. Yet, the lesson is always the same. You can’t turn a sow’s ear into a silk purse.

          Melania’s background in pornography, her stretched out injected face, her melon size breast implants, her English as a fifth language, and her overall lack of character is about all she has to offer.

          I wish she would just go back to hiding until this is over. Trump et al doesn’t need another bad actor.

  4. Well, how bad does this get before we storm The Peoples House carrying torches and pitchforks?

    Someone explain to me how Trump gets away with this? And everything else?

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