Secretary of State Fontes Rips Kolodin to Shreds in Fiery Debate

Fontes repeatedly corrected Kolodin’s misstatements.

Arizona Secretary of State Adrian Fontes made voters’ choice clear in his debate with Republican Alex Kolodin: voters can choose him, a reliable election administrator who protects their access to the ballot, or Kolodin, a disreputable politician who tried to overturn elections, restrict voting by mail, and spread obvious falsehoods.

“Lies. This is his legislative record. Now, he can say that it’s not true, but all you’ve got to do is go check it out yourself,” Fontes said at a Sept. 30 debate.

“Mr. Kolodin, if he had his way, would absolutely eliminate everyone’s right to vote by mail. That’s what the records show.”

Arizona cannot afford to put the office responsible for protecting democracy in the control of Kolodin, who has spent years attacking it.

Kolodin’s record of election denial

Kolodin actively supported Trump’s effort to overturn Arizona’s 2020 presidential result. He served as an Arizona attorney in the failed so-called “Kraken” litigation and represented members of Arizona’s fake-elector scheme. The lawsuit sought to throw out all Maricopa County mail ballots and overturn Joe Biden’s Arizona victory—a remedy that would have disenfranchised millions of lawful voters.

U.S. District Judge Diane Humetewa rejected the case, writing that its allegations lacked relevant or reliable evidence and that “gossip and innuendo” cannot become the basis for overturning an election.

Fontes drove home that contrast during the debate: “The winner was the winner, and the loser was the loser, and I was doing my job,” Fontes said. “You’ve got to bring folks together, all kinds of folks. But all you’ve ever done with your lies, with your conspiracy theories, is divide people apart.”

Kolodin repeatedly talked over and interrupted Fontes. In response, Fontes said, “Mr. Kolodin has continuously been a partisan voice and a partisan hack, as you can see the way he behaves here today, just interrupting the process, getting his own whips in.”

Kolodin introduced four bills that would have eliminated voting by mail.

Arizona Bar sanctioned Kolodin

In 2023, the State Bar of Arizona disciplined Kolodin for bringing bad-faith claims and placed him on probation for 18 months after he agreed to discipline over his conduct in several election-related cases. The agreement required him to complete ethics education and pay costs.

The Arizona Bar’s disciplinary panel found that Kolodin violated his duties “to the legal profession, the legal system, and the public” through cases that lacked evidentiary support, misrepresented Arizona law, and pursued relief the court could not lawfully grant.

Fontes reminded viewers of that basic fact in his closing statement: Kolodin, he said, had brought “false accusations that have earned him a sanction from the Arizona Supreme Court, and disciplinary action from the Arizona State Bar.”

Kolodin’s effort to eliminate voting by mail

Kolodin claims he wants to make voting easier. His legislative record says otherwise.

Fontes cited four measures from 2023 alone—HB 2099, HB 2100, HB 2101 and HB 2104—that he said would have eliminated or severely curtailed Arizonans’ ability to vote by mail. “Every single one of those, and so many since then, would have eliminated Arizonans’ right to vote by mail, forcing Arizonans to stand in line to vote,” Fontes said.

Fontes looked skeptically at Kolodin’s wild claims.

Kolodin’s current Proposition 144 would require government-issued identification for every voter, including people voting by mail.

Kolodin falsely claimed, “Prop. 144 will make voting easier for all Arizonans.”

Fontes retorted, “A rule that demands more paperwork and potentially more trips to government offices does not make voting easier for all Arizonans.”

Fontes then explained what Kolodin’s approach ignores: access and convenience are inseparable in a state where people live in rural communities, work multiple jobs, care for children, lack reliable transportation, or live in assisted-living facilities.

“Convenience and access are actually the same thing,” Fontes said. “When you’re making it less convenient for voters, you’re reducing their access.”

Arizona’s mail-voting system is not an abstract policy dispute. It is how millions of Arizonans participate in democracy. Any secretary of state who treats that access as expendable is unfit for the job.

The “Sinaloa cartel lawyer” smear

Kolodin repeatedly attacked Fontes for prior work as a criminal-defense attorney, referring to him as a lawyer for the “Sinaloa cartel” and alleging he had represented people accused of serious crimes. Fontes called it “a big, fat lie” and correctly identified the essential principle at stake: legal representation does not endorse a client’s alleged conduct.

“Maybe those folks did bad things, but they deserve the same constitutional rights as everybody else does, Mr. Kolodin,” Fontes said. “And I’m sorry you don’t think so.”

A public defender or defense attorney represents clients because the Constitution requires due process, counsel, and a fair justice system. Smearing an opponent for fulfilling that legal role is not evidence of wrongdoing. It is a political attack on the constitutional right to a defense.

The claim that Fontes would share voter data

Kolodin said he would not turn over Arizona voter-registration data to the Trump administration. In response, Fontes said, “Mr. Kolodin, however, would be a surrender monkey to this administration, give whatever data they wanted, turn over the voting rules to them because that would serve his political interests best.”

Fontes explained that the request sought unredacted voter-roll information and that providing it would have violated Arizona law and federal privacy protections. He said his office prevailed in litigation against Trump, along with other states.

Fontes also warned that the request was part of a broader political effort to cast doubt on voter rolls and make voting harder: “Part of the election denialism scheme is to reduce the capacity for all voters to vote.”

The unsupported “illegal-voter” narrative

Kolodin also exaggerated a limited inquiry involving alleged noncitizen voting. Fontes said an initial list of more than 200 names was narrowed to 60, and that 52 were found to be citizens; the remaining eight were legal permanent residents. The county attorney did not bring charges at that time.

Fontes’s response was direct: “The election denier people, like Mr. Kolodin, want to whip up all of this nonsense about untold hundreds of thousands of illegal voters, which is a lie, and now we have proof that it’s a lie.”

Kolodin’s answer was to extrapolate from a limited sample and suggest there were probably many more unlawful votes. But speculation is not evidence—and it is precisely the kind of unsupported inference that fueled the 2020 litigation for which he was disciplined.

Fontes’s case for voters

Fontes has built his case around practical election administration: ballot tracking, cooperation with county recorders, investments in election security, voter-roll maintenance, and defending the right of every eligible Arizonan to vote.

He said his office created a security division, hired a chief information security officer, conducted election-security exercises, convened an AI-and-election-security committee, and worked with local, state, and federal partners in response to threats.

He also pointed to the state ballot-tracking program, describing it as a bipartisan success that increased enrollment by 73 percent.

“This is about getting the job done for Arizona voters,” Fontes said, “not being a wild-eyed fanatic, not going off the handle and being absurd in your allegations.”

That is the choice Arizona faces.

Fontes accepted an election result he did not like, certified a presidential outcome he did not prefer, and has worked to help more voters use the ballot safely and conveniently.

Kolodin pursued litigation to invalidate millions of mail ballots, was sanctioned by the State Bar for election-related legal misconduct, has promoted bills and a ballot initiative that would make voting by mail harder, and continues to traffic in the same distrust and distortion that damaged public confidence in the first place.

Arizona needs a secretary of state who will defend the voters—not one who has tried to deny them.


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